Thursday, March 31, 2011
3 Articles-FK
Bask in the Dreams of Suicide VH
I Bask in the Dreams of Suicide:
This article discussed the research that highlights the relationship between mental illness and poets. It was pointed out that scientific research has been done and that research has discovered that many poets suffer from mental illnesses. They also discovered that poetry attracts those with a mental illness and although poetry may help those with a mental illness it may also cause one to obtain a mental illness. Also the research pointed out that woman are caused a great amount of physiological stress from poetry. Overall the idea was that Tendencies of mental illness are greater in artistic fields of work.
3 article -WR-
“I Bask In Dreams of Suicide: Mental Illness, Poetry, and Women” . The purpose of the article is to explore possible reasons for the high rate of mental illness among female poets. The authors also give some examples of the linkage between creativity and mental illness, especially in the domain of poetry and among female poets. In the article Sylvia Plath is introduced as an example of a female eminent poet who committed suicide.
“Sylvia Plath And The Failure Of Emotional Self-repair Through Poetry” This article is about Sylvia Plath’s life. The author tries to find the reason why Sylvia Plath committed suicide and what effect her decision. In the article introduce two important events that effect Sylvia’s decision. The first event was Sylvia’s mother’s visiting to England possibly stirring up her old fears of her father. And the second event was Sylvia’s husband’s affair with another woman.
Articles - Jeet
- Empirical studies have established a link between mental illness and creative writers/artists; female poets in particular
- Poetry attracts more expressive, emotional, "narrative", "legislative" thinkers who are more prone to instability. Depressed women tend to ruminate more than men and writing may have a deleterious effect. The personal nature of poetry attracts emotionally disturbed women looking for an outlet.
- Poetry may not have the same benefits as other creative writing and might adversely impact the artist's internal locus of control, and therefore his or her self esteem. Female poets in particular tend to attribute their accomplishments to an external agent such as a muse.
- The "gatekeepers" of poetry may have ingrained expectations about the personal nature of a female poet's work and therefore may view the works of emotionally unstable female poets in a more favorable light.
- Mental illness is more prevalent in the young population and compared to artists and professionals in other fields, poets tend to peak earlier in their lives.
- Female poets in western society might struggle more than men to deal with the higher expectations that accompany creative success.
- The dualities - a)Writing for an audience and writing for personal reasons. b) Destructive and constructive activity within writing. c) Fantasy and pretense as opposed to reality. d) Interplay and harmony between content and form
- In Plath's later years, the emotionally devastating experiences of her life, coupled with her unstable mental state and her narcissistic withdrawal from the world led to her abandoning her controlled traditional style of composing poetry. She adopted a more a much more personal style that let her feelings run loose, only heightening her inner turmoil.
I'm not sure if i understand the article. The implication seems to be that Plath's poetry gave her a venue to vent her rage and control her swirling mass of ambivalent emotions. However, in her later years, the creative force weakened and the absence of this coping mechanism led her to kill herself. (?)
Wednesday, March 30, 2011
3 articles - BK
Tuesday, March 29, 2011
3 Articles - R. Abbott
The Colossus (M.A)
In the second stanza, she describes how her father considers what he says to be important and maybe is therefore trying to say something. But she states that even after thirty years, she still does not know what the sounds mean that he made.
In the third stanza, she describes how she is trying to clean his face with disinfectant.. slowly "like an ant in mourning" over his bushy eyebrows and cleaning his eyes. This creates a segway into the fourth stanza of his expressive looks that are "pithy and historical". This metaphor is compared to the Roman history.
In the fifth stanza she describes how her father's physical and mental ability have been ruined and that it takes "more than a lightning-stroke to create such a ruin". She realizes that it isn't a normal illness that can be cured and a lot of damage has been done.
In the sixth stanza, her message is a bit confusing but it seems like she is just trying to say that she doesn't have to hear those harsh noises anymore.
The Colossus MQ
The Colossus - Jeet
She starts off the poem by likening his didactic speech with the senseless sound of beasts. She says that while he himself might have had a high opinion of the wisdom he was imparting, she for one never could make sense of it.
She speaks of herself as an ant in mourning, a small creature in his overbearing presence. In alluding to the skies of the Greek tragedies and the Roman Forum, she is indicating that while he didn't offer her anything of value, he still is a very significant part of her life, which at times was rather depressing for her.
The reference to cypress and the symbolism that associates that tree to death and funerals indicates the father's continued significance even after death; and that death had such a profound impact on her that it must have been caused by something much more powerful than even lightening.
"My hours are married to shadow" - in thinking of her dead father all the time, her life is somehow linked inextricably to death. She has given up on being conscious about the more easily perceptible things (emotions) in life.
The actual description of the father is also linked to the stone colossus (statue) and lends itself to comparison with a stony, unmoving figure that is a big part of her life. In this, the poem may be thought of as an extended simile/ deceit.
The Colossus MP
The Colossus-VB
The Colossus-WR-
Monday, March 28, 2011
The Colossus-FK
The Colossus - BK
Thursday, March 24, 2011
'The Colossus' - R. Abbott
LAdy Lazarus-WR-
The poem really made me sad because I felt her weakness throughout the poem. In the seven stanza and third line she wrote, “And like the cat I have nine times to die”. She may believe she could live until ninety years old because she said she “done it again one year in every ten…”(1). When she wrote the poem, she was still young. She did not live enough to say the world is terrible. The overall image is of the poem is very dark and painful. However, after reading this poem, I only had one thought in my mind. I really wanted to help her.
Lady Lazarus (M.A)
The poem seems to be about dying three times out of nine. She refers to herself as a cat, because it is a myth that cat have nine lives. She starts talking about her injuries, of how her right foot was "like paperweight", which means she couldn't feel it and it was broken.
She then mentions how she has gone through this three times, although the first one was an accident, and the other two were purposely done. That means that the first time she had an accidental near death experience and the other two were suicide attempts.
Lady Lazarus FK
The poem is made up off 84 lines arranged in 28 triplets. There is no apparent rhyme scheme in this poem, but a number of the lines consist of internal rhyming. The overall theme of this poem is death. Like a lot of Sylvia Plath's other poems there are many refrences to Nazi's and Jew's. For example in lines 4-5 Plath compares her skin to that of a Nazi lampshade and in lines 8-9 she compares her featureless face to that of a Jew linen. Another refrence that appears a few times in this poem is a refrence to Lucifer and God. There is also good use of figrutive imagery throughout this poem. One example is lines 6-7 where Plath uses a metaphor to compare the weight of her right foot to that of a paper weight. This poem seems to be written in the perspective of Sylvia Plath explaining her own death.
This poem seems to be Sylvia Plath's way of foreshadowing her future death. She starts off the poem by saying she has done it again. Plath says she does it once in every ten years. Here I think Plath is talking taking her life. I am assuming she has tried to take her life before, but to no success. In line 21 Plath talks about how she is like a cat and has nine lives and in line 22 she says this is her third life. In line 35 Plath says the first time she tried to take her life was when she was ten. I feel that this might have occured because off her fathers death because it occured around the same time. She says that this time it was an accident but she goes on to explain that the second time she tried she meant it. In the fifeteenth triplet Plath says that dying is an art and she is exceptionally well at it. She then uses the rest of the poem to describe her third attempt on her life (which hasn't happened yet). She uses a lot of Nazi and Jew refrences here. In the 24th triplet I believe Plath is comparing her third attempt at dying to Jew's getting killed by Nazi's at concentration camps. She talks about how she burns and her enemy pokes and stirs her ashes and all that remains is a wedding ring. This imagery here really paints a picture of Jew's getting burned at concentration camps. At the end of the poem Plath warns God and Lucifer that she will rise again out of the ash.
LL - BK
I have done it again. One year in every ten I manage it--
This first stanza meaning that she has tried it once every 10 years, and when she survives it she compares herself to a cat having nine lives.
I think she compares her face to a Jew linen to imply a weak or defenseless look.
It seems like the first time she didn't mean to almost die,
The first time it happened
I was ten.
It was an accident.
The second time I meant
To last it out and not come back at all.
I rocked shut
whereas the second time she really tried to kill herself and failed.
The speaker then compares dying to an art, which she claims she does exceptionally well, which is a bold claim since she has never done it and failed at it when tried.
She describes it as a sort of theatrical event with spectators.
I am still confused about
For the eyeing of my scars, there is a charge For the hearing of my heart-- It really goes. And there is a charge, a very large charge For a word or a touch Or a bit of blood Or a piece of my hair or my clothes. So, so, Herr Doktor. So, Herr Enemy.
Lady Lazarus VB
Within the poem she makes a handful of references towards nazis and connecting them father. She even refers to the devil in line 79. She had made earlier references to Lucifer in lines 64 and 63 when she capitalizes Herr Doktor and Herr Enemy.
There is a feeling of resentment and bitterness to not only her father but other men in her life. I thinks some of the anger is for her husband as well because he uis just another male figure in her life that seems to have done nothing to help better her.
The end of the poem ends in a way to show that she has become strong because of the men around her not helping her. She has found her own way to gte past struggles withou their help.
"Out of the ash
I rise with my red hair
And I eat men like air"
That is the filan triplet in the poem and it is saying how strong hse has become so these men that try to bring her down should fear her because she knows that she does not need them.
Tuesday, March 22, 2011
Lady Lazz Vic H
This poem is written in the form of a tercet. This tercet however lacks a consistent rhyming pattern and seems as if the form was chosen more contribute to pacing the reading of the poem.
In this poem Plath makes what seem to be biblical references. The title Lady Lazarus is the first reference to the bible. The name Lazarus appears twice in the in the new testament once in Luke and once in John. The first appearance of the name Lazarus refers to Lazarus the beggar who is poor and neglected by the rich man. Ultimately he ends up in a position where the rich man is begging him for a drop of water while being tormented by fire in hell. In the second appearance of the name Lazarus it is in John where Lazarus is dead and Jesus revives him from the dead four days later in a spectacular miracle.
Plath throughout the poem makes biblical references early on. In stanza two the first line she states “A sort of walking Miracle…” When read alone it has little meaning, but it is a small hint at an overall theme. The miracle is of biblical origin so it easily linked to other references in the poem. In stanza four she says “peel off the napkin” which can be compared to the story of Lazarus in John where after he was revived they had to take off the wrapping that he was in, in his tomb. In stanzas five and six Plath is describing a revival. She is describing her facial structure returning as well as her flesh and the disappearance of the bad breath that brought upon her because of the time she spent deceased. Amongst her description she uses a personification that makes it seem as if the cave is actually eating her by stating “ Soon, Soon the flesh/ The grave cave ate will be/ At home on me”
She continues the poem comparing herself to a cat having nine lives in the seventh stanza using a simile. She then informs the reader she is on her third life and reminds the reader that she dies once every ten years. Plath in stanza thirteen talks about a time where she meant to die and not come back. This makes believe that this poem is about failed suicide attempts. She talks about the pain, the scars and mentions the doctor in stanza twenty-two referring to him/her as her enemy and I would assume it is because he keeps her from achieving an absolute death by helping her. With the last five stanzas she talks about burning to ash. I believe she is making reference to the other Lazarus who was poor and the rich man who neglected him went to hell and burned. I believe that because she mentions so many items that signify wealth like pure gold, rings, and gold fillings and concludes by saying “herr Lucifer”.
'Lady Lazarus' - R. Abbott
Love sonnet 8/10 !REDO! Vic H
Love Sonnet 148
The poem is 10 syllable per line with three quatrains and a couplet. He did it in the form of an Shakespearian sonnet. The Shakespearian sonnet uses an aabb, cdcd,efef, hh pattern which distinguishes his writting style from others.
In the first line I imagine someone frustrated with being in love with someone they don’t know why they are in love with. It seems as if this person cannot see why they are in love with someone and is questions their judgment.
“Or if they have, where is my judgment fled”
They are wondering where their judgment has fled to using a personification to give their judgment the ability to flee as if a human. I looked up the word censures to get a clearer understanding in the next line. The poet is asking if their criticism or condemnation of their infatuation for this other is correct. I also looked up the word dote which is extreme fondness. This gives the line greater understanding.
“If that be fair whereon my false eyes dote
What means the world to say it is not so? “
Shakespeare then defends the other against his criticism, questioning the opinions of the world. In that line Shakespeare was speaking to the reader but staying omniscient enough to be able to be speaking to everyone. He then continues questioning yet this time questioning the eye of loves truth. In questioning the eye of loves truth he is using synecdoche to combine a feeling such as love with the eye. He then discusses why loves eye could be incorrect and he points out that the eye is vexed when infatuated or straining through the occurrence of tears credited to love. As he continued to defend the love he basically states “no wonder he mistook this person”, referring to his position in the beginning. He understands that he made a mistake and compares his mis-viewing to the sun not being able to see the heavens until the clouds clear. He is comparing the clouds to the distractions that might have gotten in the way of things, and the sun as him making the mistake of not being able to see through the clouds. He is using personification in the give the sun the ability to see through clouds.
He finishes by declaring that the tears have kept him blind, referring to the strain spoken about earlier when the eye is vexed. He is saying he needs to avoid his eyes being good because fault would be found clearly in his other which proves that maybe there is something wrong with him.
Tuesday, March 8, 2011
For My Daughter (M.A)
The first few stanzas mention how he tries to see past her "innocence of morning flesh concealed" which could symbolize the while and fresh skin that usually shows, but it is now concealed by death.
The winds have messed up her hair and the seaweed has injured her hands, which tells us that his daughter most probably died in some body of water.Furthermore, the "night's slow poison and tolerant bland, has moved her blood" symbolizes how the night, which is considered to be dark, has come over her and has made her cold blooded and completely white in the face.
He then describes her physical attributes, that the age that used to be seen is now foul and lingering with death and the slim legs that are green could be covered with seaweed. He also considers her looks to be like the bride of syphilis or a fool, which means it is fresh. And then he says how they are a sour sight in the sun and that he now has no daughter. And maybe does not want another one again...
For Semra, With Martial Vigor - Ray Carver (Jeet)
The poet is with a first date or possibly with a prostitute. When she asks him how much writers make, he says that they often have to moonlight when they're starting off. It strikes her as odd that learned men might have to do menial jobs like sweeping floors. She is a foreigner for she alludes to her own country where a writer would never have to do such labor.
She goes on to implore him to write a poem, a love poem. He responds that all poems are love poems. It is a recurring theme in Carver's works that love for numerous objects, persons and even abstract ideas can prove to be a muse. The lady confesses she doesn't quite understand what that means; he proceeds to write nonetheless. She stops him, claiming she only wanted to see if he would write for her and asks to see the poem at a later time.
As the poet gets closer to her and puts his hand on her thigh, she stops him, indicating she wants to talk. She tells him of Istanbul's charm and asks him about Khayyam and Gibran. He confesses he doesn't know the latter and she inquires what he thinks of the military.
He admits he doesn't think too highly of it upon which she says that she rather does, having once lived with an army man, a real man.
Feeling the need to impress her, the poet, drunk and clumsy gets up to find a make believe sword and strut about like a military man. Instead, in his inebriated state, he ends up knocking over the teapot. He confusedly mumbles apologies first to the teapot, then to Semra. Observing his clumsiness she wonders aloud why she let him pick her up.
In the poem, I believe Carver is poking some fun at both the disinclination of writers towards the martial profession and also at his drinking - this is sadly ironic, for Carver, in his later years, abused alcohol before he eventually went missing.
For My Daughter MQ
For My Daughter- VB
There are three possible futures he sees for his daughter. The first is a life of pain, suffering and hardship. The second is summarized by the line "Or, fed on hate, she relishes the sting of others' agony; perhaps the creul", meaning that she will have a life where she is surrounded by negative and hateful people, possibly making her like them. Lastly he sees a future for his daughter that involves her being married to a cheating husband.
I chose this poem because I have twin sisters that are 14 months old. This poem only describes possible bad futures for women and gives them no chance to be happy, meaningful, and/or influential. I disagree with Kees because of this. When I look at my sisters I see their potential and I know I will always be there guiding them alongthe way as best I can and protecting them from these fates and other obstacles they may face.
Sunday, March 6, 2011
For My Daughter-FK
The poem starts off with the author looking into his daughters eyes. He talks about how his daughter looks innocent on the outside, even though she is nearing death. The body of the poem is the author discussing how his daughter is dying. Kees uses imagery to describe how his daughter has been through a lot and is gradually dying. Kees uses the phrase "the nights slow poison" to show how his daughters time is coming to end. At the end of a poem Kees uses an interesting line. He says "I have no daughter, I desire none." This makes me feel that Kees daughter was dead when he wrote this poem. I feel that this poem was just describing his daughters last few years alive. The last three words of this poem "I desire none" are the strongest to me. They just show how much Kees loves his daughter, that he doesn't want another child because he can't replace her.
Thursday, March 3, 2011
'For My Daughter' - R. Abbott
New Mother (Vic)
New Mother (M.A)
Her "sex had been torn" which means her genital muscles and skin had been stretched from inside by the baby's head and how she got stitches as well and they were bothering her. She talks about the initial stage of being torn apart in the genital area and how that feeling doesn't go away, just how, once you lose a love, you think you will never love again.
She then goes on how her lover or husband starts kissing her after she gave birth and how he was erotically charged with the words "your sex dry and big" . She compares herself to a wounded animal because of all the blood and stitches, which is a metaphor in this poem. The end of the poem has a more softer and calmer tone, a bit relieved as well where she describes how her lover is patient and will stay with her and wait until she is ready.
Mock Orange BK
New Mother - Jeet
Since the birth, the mother's body has undergone changes. As they are kissing on the bed, her breasts, swollen with milk, soak her shirt.The moist feeling and the odour make her uncomfortable. She is in pain even, from the actual birth. The cesarean section has surely been a painful and physically taxing experience. As a new mother, she says she doesn't know that "you'll be healed again, better than before". If I may take the liberty of making an interpretation, I think there's more to this line than meets the eye. While medically, indeed the skin stitched after an incision does heal to be stronger than before, what she means is that a woman really comes into herself as a mother. It is womanhood's crowning moment.
So there she lies in bed with him, in discomfort and pain. While she senses his desire, she knows he loves her and will treat her with understanding and with patience. Its a delightful simile when she likens him to someone who stays with a wounded animal until it is healed and can run again.
Sharon Olds powerfully conveys the anxiety of a new mother's sexuality and the man's role in supporting her through it.
New Mother by Adam Sprung
The poem starts off by saying that this couple just had a baby, something very joyous and happy. However, as you read the poem, you get this lurking sense of misery and despair, all the way until the very last line "until it can run again".
Throughout the poem she brings up the idea of sex, and combines that with imagines of a new mother. However, i think the "stitches" and the wounds and cuts referes to something more than just what may have come from her child labor. I beleive that she is feeling a lack of a connection to her child now that it is no longer inside of her. She is longing to feel that connection again, but realizes that it will take time to heal. I think that its her motherly insticts that she is talking about. She wants to nurture this child, but is having a hard time doing it for some reason. Maybe she was not ready to have a child. Maybe, she just is nervous about the future. I get this from the line "and the first time you’re broken, you don’t know you’ll be healed again, better than before. I lay in fear and blood and milk"
Towards the end of the poem, there is a reference to this other person giving tender care, and having patience, and tending to her as if she were a "wounded animal in the woods". I think this is quite interesting. It really gives the impression that she is hopeless, cant help herself. This bothers me. I'm not sure why, it just does. I just feel like one week after a child is born, there should much more happiness than pain.
Mock Orange- WOORAM
I come up with two different images from the fourth stanza. First, the fourth stanza seems to describe herself in a bed hearing a noise coming from outside. Especially from “I hear the question and pursuing answer fused in one sound”, I can feel that noise is coming to her ears even though she did not want to. And she blames the moon because it carries the noise into her room. Second, she may suffer from a problem and keep thinking about it. She keeps thinking about the problem and suddenly realizes there is moonlight. She simply blames the moonlight to make herself feel better.
At the last stanza, she describes the moonlight as an odor. She again blames the moon because it disturbs her rest. Furthermore, she is not content of her night life because there is moonlight.
She wants to enjoy the darkness but the moon disturbs her. So she calls the moon “Mock Orange”. I have believe that she love loneliness and darkness.
Mock Orange - VB
The poem talks about the sex the couple has very negatively. First by saying how she hates men and sex and then going on talking about the end of the sex when her partner "and the cry that always escapes, the low, humiliating premise of union". By her sayiing this it is clear that she is disgusted by her partner and even the thought of having sexual relations with him. Also because she calls it the humiliating premise of union it is clear that she does not want to be married to him.
The end of the poem talks about the flowers outside their bedroom window. She says how can I restw ith that odor in the world talking aboutr the odor ofthe flowers tajht have drifted into the room. I thought that was talking about her desire to be in a place where the flowers and her husband are not there so she can rest and not lie next to a man that she cannot stand.
Mock Orange Mike Quigley
in the first stanza, she states that it is not the moon that light up the night (a common romantic symbol) but the flowers in the yard, (often associated with first dates and crushes). I think what she is trying to say here it is not true love, what she is doing with this man.
in the second stanza she descries how she hates those flowers just as she hates sex. One of her reasons for hating sex is that the man is in control of her. she states how she hates the mans mouth civering her and his paralyzing body, which would make her unable to move and unable to speak.
in the third stanza she discusses that low, humiliating presence of union and referring to sex she feels tat no true union is ever made just two seperate entities working differently. realy unromantisicing lovemaking.
and in the last two stanzas she states how her and the man are fools for feeling anything stronger that a physicall realationship and that that smell of mock orange is drifting into the window. she states that she cannot rest with that mock orange scent ligering in the world which i feel is the idea that sex and love are closley realted.
Mock Orange-FK
I looked up what a mock orange is and it is a type of plant that looks similar to orange plants, but aren't really orange plants. I feel like Gluck uses mock orange as the title of this poem to symbolize how during sex you seem like one entity, but really you are just two separate people.
In the first stanza Gluck expresses her hatred of the plants that light up the yard.
She continues to express her hatred for these plants in the second stanza. Gluck compares the hatred of these plants to her hatred of sex.
In the third stanza Gluck talks about how there is a premise of union when you're having sex. I believe she is implying that this is why she hates sex.
During the fourth stanza Gluck begins to question if there is a union during sex, but as soon as her partner and herself finish she realizes that they were made fools of. They weren't really one entity, but two separate people. At the end of this stanza Gluck talks about the scent of the plants coming back. This scent symbolize why she hates sex and that is because during sex her partner and herself seem like something they are not, just like the mock orange.
In the last stanza Gluck questions how she can rest knowing that scent is always going to be in the world. For her the scent symbolizes that she will never be one entity with her partner when they have sex.
Wednesday, March 2, 2011
Mock Orange Matt Pryzby
Tuesday, March 1, 2011
'Mock Orange' - R.Abbott
-Ryan
First Kiss (M.A)
The first two verses describe the man's drugged look, which could mean his drunk look for love or lust or passion. The verse "as though behind them the milk was rising up to fill her" could mean how the man was filled with energy after it, like a meter turning up.
The verses " the wild flailing and crying until she fastened
The poem goes on to describe the intensity of the kiss until she comes back to reality and describes the situation of the kiss where the man leans back on a chain fence by a burnt down church. This image could represent some kind of sin maybe or how they should not be together but they are.
The last three verses that state "a man
The Japanese Wife
First Kiss Adam Sprung
The poem is set up that she introduces the man, and the moment of the kiss right away, and does not even refer to that kiss until the very end. There seems to be this very memorable factor to it. However, what makes it more interesting is the innocents that she conncets to it. There is something so pure about the act of feeding an infant, and to compare that emotion to a kiss is extremely powerfull. I especially like the part "the wild flailing and crying until she fastened herself to me and made the seal tight between us, and sucked, drawing the liquid down and out of my body; no, this was the crowning moment, this giving of herself, knowing she could show me how helpless she was—that’s what I saw" In this part, i can just see the man she kissed being upset at first, not sure if he was going to get that kiss, but once they locked their lips its the climax of their relationship. She is able to truly see into him, and feel his helplessness and vulnerability.
I also really like the image of a chain linked fence. It almost make me think that she is linking these two emotions together, weaving them and making them feel as though they are once.
Overall, the poem really does not have any rhyme scheme to it. It is very free flowing, and i think that's the part i like the best about its form.
First Kiss - Jeet
The poet says that she is amazed by the power of contentment that so easily mollifies the anxiety of hunger in her baby. What brings her the most joy is the comfort and inevitability with which her daughter's expression betrays to her that her mother satisfies her every need easily.
She likens the expression to that on the face of her lover, after they shared their first kiss out in front of a church - "a man who was going to be that vulnerable,that easy and impossible to hurt". She says she's glad to have loved someone that so readily and helplessly professed her ability to make him content and happy.